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      <p xml:id="subtitle1" begin="00:00:02.220" end="00:00:06.090">Backstage welcomes Dave Morales</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle2" begin="00:00:06.090" end="00:00:07.790">spoke with the producers about</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle3" begin="00:00:07.790" end="00:00:09.890">keeping the franchise fresh. IAH</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle4" begin="00:00:09.890" end="00:00:11.760">High I want to play a game haha.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle5" begin="00:00:11.760" end="00:00:13.430">Okay. I can&apos;t be that scary.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle6" begin="00:00:13.430" end="00:00:15.230">We&apos;re talking Saw ten which hits</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle7" begin="00:00:15.230" end="00:00:16.360">theaters this week. We&apos;re ready</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle8" begin="00:00:16.360" end="00:00:20.570">to take you backstage with the</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle9" begin="00:00:20.570" end="00:00:23.100">perspective, John Kramer is back</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle10" begin="00:00:23.100" end="00:00:25.010">doing scary stuff. This movie</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle11" begin="00:00:25.010" end="00:00:27.830">takes place after the first saw</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle12" begin="00:00:30.410" end="00:00:33.280">and before saw two. Are you</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle13" begin="00:00:33.280" end="00:00:34.450">ready? Can you handle it? Let&apos;s</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle14" begin="00:00:34.450" end="00:00:37.220">play a game. This is saw ten.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle15" begin="00:00:37.220" end="00:00:38.520">All right. You both have been</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle16" begin="00:00:38.520" end="00:00:40.390">part of this franchise for</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle17" begin="00:00:40.390" end="00:00:43.360">years. We started it. When did</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle18" begin="00:00:43.360" end="00:00:44.460">you know the reaction in the fan</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle19" begin="00:00:44.460" end="00:00:47.930">base is so hardcore. The</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle20" begin="00:00:47.930" end="00:00:49.830">characters. When did you go? I</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle21" begin="00:00:49.830" end="00:00:51.670">think we have something here.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle22" begin="00:00:51.670" end="00:00:52.570">The after the first weekend, the</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle23" begin="00:00:52.570" end="00:00:55.400">movie prior to the movie</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle24" begin="00:00:55.400" end="00:00:57.770">opening. Not true. The UK. So</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle25" begin="00:00:57.770" end="00:00:59.570">what happened is we were</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle26" begin="00:00:59.570" end="00:01:01.310">supposed to come out at the end</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle27" begin="00:01:01.310" end="00:01:03.310">of September this is saw one</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle28" begin="00:01:03.310" end="00:01:05.080">John Feltheimer who the chairman</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle29" begin="00:01:05.080" end="00:01:07.210">of and CEO of Lionsgate decided</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle30" begin="00:01:07.210" end="00:01:09.950">to move it into Halloween week.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle31" begin="00:01:09.950" end="00:01:11.050">world they got to move it except</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle32" begin="00:01:11.050" end="00:01:12.250">the UK couldn&apos;t move it because</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle33" begin="00:01:12.250" end="00:01:13.950">they had booked the theaters and</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle34" begin="00:01:13.950" end="00:01:15.820">they couldn&apos;t. They had a</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle35" begin="00:01:15.820" end="00:01:17.920">commitment. So the change. So</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle36" begin="00:01:17.920" end="00:01:19.730">the UK released it a month early</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle37" begin="00:01:19.730" end="00:01:22.430">and we did like $12 million in</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle38" begin="00:01:22.430" end="00:01:24.400">UK on $1 million movie. And UK</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle39" begin="00:01:24.400" end="00:01:26.330">is not as big a territory as you</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle40" begin="00:01:26.330" end="00:01:27.500">think. It&apos;s not that big. And</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle41" begin="00:01:27.500" end="00:01:29.140">that gave Lionsgate the Kerr the</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle42" begin="00:01:29.140" end="00:01:31.270">courage to spend the money and</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle43" begin="00:01:31.270" end="00:01:33.870">release the movie theatrically</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle44" begin="00:01:33.870" end="00:01:35.040">and it wasn&apos;t until the opening</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle45" begin="00:01:35.040" end="00:01:37.580">weekend where we&apos;re like, Wow,</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle46" begin="00:01:37.580" end="00:01:39.350">this movie actually is like, we</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle47" begin="00:01:39.350" end="00:01:41.450">may actually get our money back.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle48" begin="00:01:41.450" end="00:01:43.120">This is going to work. You know,</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle49" begin="00:01:43.120" end="00:01:44.890">the fan base is hardcore. Do you</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle50" begin="00:01:44.890" end="00:01:46.820">read like the comments? Okay.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle51" begin="00:01:46.820" end="00:01:49.820">You do? Yeah because that&apos;s how</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle52" begin="00:01:49.820" end="00:01:51.730">we learn. That&apos;s kind of we</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle53" begin="00:01:51.730" end="00:01:54.090">don&apos;t test the movies. We don&apos;t.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle54" begin="00:01:54.090" end="00:01:56.100">We read a ton of Reddit. We</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle55" begin="00:01:56.100" end="00:01:57.160">friends of ours that read it, we</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle56" begin="00:01:57.160" end="00:01:59.170">just kind of digest it, dissect</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle57" begin="00:01:59.170" end="00:02:00.730">they like, who they don&apos;t like,</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle58" begin="00:02:00.730" end="00:02:02.200">what we&apos;ve done wrong, what</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle59" begin="00:02:02.200" end="00:02:04.000">we&apos;ve done, what we&apos;ve done</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle60" begin="00:02:04.000" end="00:02:06.070">right, and it&apos;s kind of a</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle61" begin="00:02:06.070" end="00:02:07.910">sounding board for us. We</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle62" begin="00:02:07.910" end="00:02:09.740">listen, you take out the</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle63" begin="00:02:09.740" end="00:02:12.410">crazies, the people that hate it</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle64" begin="00:02:12.410" end="00:02:14.210">and speak bad about it, or the</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle65" begin="00:02:14.210" end="00:02:16.450">people that speak just are crazy</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle66" begin="00:02:16.450" end="00:02:17.550">. Fans in that middle say 80. We</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle67" begin="00:02:17.550" end="00:02:18.650">listen and learn. We don&apos;t do we</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle68" begin="00:02:18.650" end="00:02:20.450">don&apos;t do research screenings</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle69" begin="00:02:20.450" end="00:02:22.260">because we don&apos;t want people</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle70" begin="00:02:22.260" end="00:02:24.390">giving away the ending and you</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle71" begin="00:02:24.390" end="00:02:27.160">can&apos;t test it. And then have 300</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle72" begin="00:02:27.160" end="00:02:28.830">people on Instagram talking</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle73" begin="00:02:28.830" end="00:02:31.300">about the movie. So we&apos;re kind</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle74" begin="00:02:31.300" end="00:02:31.870">of go with our own gut and then</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle75" begin="00:02:31.870" end="00:02:33.730">we learn and we read and we</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle76" begin="00:02:33.730" end="00:02:35.670">listen and we make changes. I</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle77" begin="00:02:35.670" end="00:02:36.940">mean, that&apos;s how this became a</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle78" begin="00:02:36.940" end="00:02:39.040">movie between Saw one and two.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle79" begin="00:02:39.040" end="00:02:41.210">It&apos;s what the audience wanted</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle80" begin="00:02:41.210" end="00:02:42.340">and what the fans wanted. We</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle81" begin="00:02:42.340" end="00:02:44.410">wanted Shawnee Smith back in the</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle82" begin="00:02:44.410" end="00:02:46.480">movie. They wanted Tobin not in</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle83" begin="00:02:46.480" end="00:02:49.150">a flashback, but still being</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle84" begin="00:02:49.150" end="00:02:50.880">we know when we got to make the</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle85" begin="00:02:50.880" end="00:02:52.390">movie. Now let&apos;s come up with a</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle86" begin="00:02:52.390" end="00:02:53.950">story that works for this time</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle87" begin="00:02:53.950" end="00:02:54.960">period. Are there scenes that</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle88" begin="00:02:54.960" end="00:02:58.560">you guys see maybe as they&apos;re</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle89" begin="00:02:58.560" end="00:02:59.760">filming or in the dailies or</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle90" begin="00:02:59.760" end="00:03:01.430">whatever? Do you guys go, Oh,</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle91" begin="00:03:01.430" end="00:03:02.330">this is going to get them? Yeah</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle92" begin="00:03:02.330" end="00:03:04.300">like, okay, we can get a big</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle93" begin="00:03:04.300" end="00:03:05.670">jump here. Here&apos;s how we&apos;re</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle94" begin="00:03:05.670" end="00:03:06.870">going to do it and here&apos;s what</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle95" begin="00:03:06.870" end="00:03:09.000">we&apos;re going to do. And, and it</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle96" begin="00:03:09.000" end="00:03:11.170">worked. It was a director, does</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle97" begin="00:03:11.170" end="00:03:13.340">it? Yeah Director Does it. Does</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle98" begin="00:03:13.340" end="00:03:15.180">it all. Kevin&apos;s genius. I mean,</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle99" begin="00:03:15.180" end="00:03:17.510">Kevin either edited or directed</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle100" begin="00:03:17.510" end="00:03:20.350">every Saul movie, so he&apos;s seen</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle101" begin="00:03:20.350" end="00:03:24.120">Saul. One knows what works and</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle102" begin="00:03:24.120" end="00:03:25.720">does not. That&apos;s in the movie.</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle103" begin="00:03:25.720" end="00:03:26.890">But every frame of footage that</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle104" begin="00:03:26.890" end="00:03:30.090">we ever shot, it. Are you scared</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle105" begin="00:03:30.090" end="00:03:31.020">will tell you right now my</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle106" begin="00:03:31.020" end="00:03:33.660">instant review is there is a</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle107" begin="00:03:33.660" end="00:03:35.600">great story behind this one</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle108" begin="00:03:35.600" end="00:03:37.700">specifically relating to the</p>
      <p xml:id="subtitle109" begin="00:03:37.700" end="00:03:40.050">character John Kramer. It&apos;s gory</p>
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